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uscpsycho
06-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Do EVDO PC Cards have NAI? I wonder if it's necessary for a PC card since the whole point of NAI is to let Sprint know if a phone is being tethered for data (a PC card can only be used one way so NAI technically is not needed). If the cards do have NAI, which ones do or don't have it?

I ask because I'm having an EVDO card added as an AAP to a gradfathered Vision plan. Don't tell me it can't be done, it can, I have a non-EVDO PC card as an add a phone now and they are upgrading me to an EVDO card.

The problem is that they want to give the new card Power Vision (for free) because they think the card won't work with regular vision. I assume the card will work with Vision because I know you can use EVDO on a new PV phone with a grandfathered Vision plan.

But if I the card has NAI and they put me on PV (without PAM) then I'm going to get screwed with data charges. So I'd rather just keep the grandfathered Vision plan and use the EVDO that way, just as you would with a PV phone on a grandfathered Vision plan. But if they insist on giving me PV am I going to get nailed with outrageous charges because of NAI?


Deval
06-11-2006, 05:38 PM
do you know what an NAI is?

the NAI is the vision username...every device needs 1 to access the web through the dialer.

uscpsycho
06-11-2006, 05:59 PM
do you know what an NAI is?

the NAI is the vision username...every device needs 1 to access the web through the dialer.
PV phones that can be used as PAM have a NAI that tells Sprint when the phone is tethered to a computer and used for PAM. If you don't have a PAM plan and tether your phone to a computer Sprint will nail you with crazy data use charges.

Some phones (I think only Samsungs) have an option in a service menu that allows you to disable the NAI so the phones can be used for PAM without Sprint knowing it, and without getting the outrageous data charges. With NAI disabled it looks to Sprint like you are just using regular PV without being tethered to a computer.

This is discussed at great length on several threads. There is even a hack for Treo phones that disables the NAI so you can use it as PAM without Sprint knowing about it.

So I wonder if the EVDO PC cards have this NAI. Since the card can only be used one way, the NAI seems redundant. But that doesn't necessarily mean the card doesn't use it.

As I understand it, the phones that can be used as PAM have a second vision username that is used when the phone is in PAM. Maybe I should have been more clear about this in my original post, but I thought what I meant would be obvious.

Deval
06-11-2006, 07:38 PM
PV phones that can be used as PAM have a NAI that tells Sprint when the phone is tethered to a computer and used for PAM. If you don't have a PAM plan and tether your phone to a computer Sprint will nail you with crazy data use charges.

Some phones (I think only Samsungs) have an option in a service menu that allows you to disable the NAI so the phones can be used for PAM without Sprint knowing it, and without getting the outrageous data charges. With NAI disabled it looks to Sprint like you are just using regular PV without being tethered to a computer.

This is discussed at great length on several threads. There is even a hack for Treo phones that disables the NAI so you can use it as PAM without Sprint knowing about it.

So I wonder if the EVDO PC cards have this NAI. Since the card can only be used one way, the NAI seems redundant. But that doesn't necessarily mean the card doesn't use it.

As I understand it, the phones that can be used as PAM have a second vision username that is used when the phone is in PAM. Maybe I should have been more clear about this in my original post, but I thought what I meant would be obvious.

any air card has an NAI, thats the username you see when you load up the connection manager. There is no real way to disable that.

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