Blackberry 7130e Now Available

[Jamal03]

Its now on the website...Check it out...

[Black Ice]

Thats alot of phone, to much for me.

[mcwick81]

This phone looks and sounds really neat. I went to the store to possibly purchase one, but the rep told me that Sprint charges $40 on top of your service plans for the BB version of vision.. What a rip man.. :mad:


CW

[Brooose]

This phone looks and sounds really neat. I went to the store to possibly purchase one, but the rep told me that Sprint charges $40 on top of your service plans for the BB version of vision.. What a rip man.. :mad:


CW

If you buy the phone outright, just call in and do an ESN swap. I have had blackberries on my account with standard $5 Add a phone vision and it has worked fine and there have been no extra charges.

[thebigwilley]

ummm, what's an esn swap?

[kewlazme]

ummm, what's an esn swap?

When you just buy the phone and call Sprint from home. Don't activate it at the store. Then just tell the rep on the phone that you got a new phone and you want to replace your old phone with this new one. They will ask for your ESN on your new phone

[tbakergobuck]

If you buy the phone outright, just call in and do an ESN swap. I have had blackberries on my account with standard $5 Add a phone vision and it has worked fine and there have been no extra charges.You must have a hookup at the Sprint store because the reps always tell me they haft to activate it.

[thebigwilley]

When you just buy the phone and call Sprint from home. Don't activate it at the store. Then just tell the rep on the phone that you got a new phone and you want to replace your old phone with this new one. They will ask for your ESN on your new phone

Thanks kewlazme :tu:

[thetruth]

Does anybody have this phone? if so how is it?

[River1979]

If you buy the phone outright, just call in and do an ESN swap. I have had blackberries on my account with standard $5 Add a phone vision and it has worked fine and there have been no extra charges.

I saw the phone today and it's beautiful ($200 less than the 700P). But when I asked the store rep if there were any discount because I already use Sprint for my wireless needs, he said no. I'm currently with T-mobile, but their coverage is not that good. I pay 29.99 for unlimited email, web access and 300 text messages included. For Sprint, it's 39.99 and another $8 for 500 text message. If I had my cell phone with T-mobile, my blackberry plan goes down to 19.99.

So with the ESN swap, what blackberry email do I get? Or do I just set up my POP-3 emails?

[thebigwilley]

i know, i have free everything, internet, text messaging, etc. on my plan right now and I don't want to give it up just because I get a new phone. but I also don't want to spend $400 on this phone without knowing its going to work. I mean if you didn't activate it on a renewal it just wouldn't do push mail right?

[Brooose]

i know, i have free everything, internet, text messaging, etc. on my plan right now and I don't want to give it up just because I get a new phone. but I also don't want to spend $400 on this phone without knowing its going to work. I mean if you didn't activate it on a renewal it just wouldn't do push mail right?

It will work fine. When you get a Blackberry, you go to www.sprint.com/webmailsetup and then follow the prompts. You enter the PIN and ESN of the blackberry and then you set up what email accounts that will be pushed to your phone. In addition, you can sign up for an email address for your BB so you can forward all of your email there (that is the fastest way to get messages pushed to your device).

[ejlee7829]

I would love to get this phone................if I don't have to sign up for that BB service

[unbreakableblue]

I really love the new blackberries. so sleek looking. But i'm too addicted to my camera... The blackberry might be the perfect phone as far as I'm concerned if they added a camara..

[SU_Diva*]

I saw this phone in the store today and the rep told me that this is the first blackberry that u can use the reg $15 power vision. A second rep confirmed it and they looked it up as well.

[ejlee7829]

Can you use the regular Vision, or do you have to upgrade to Power Vision. OBTW, Tamaraa, I am digging your smile. Keep it in place.

[Scrumptious]

It is a Powervision phone but that does not mean you can't use it on regular vision. It is a matter of who does the ESN swap for you.

Be prepared becase they may tell you that you have to add a blackberry data plan instead though.

[ejlee7829]

It is a Powervision phone but that does not mean you can't use it on regular vision. It is a matter of who does the ESN swap for you.

Be prepared becase they may tell you that you have to add a blackberry data plan instead though.

Its not listed as a Vision phone at all. According to the website (I assume) you will need to order the BB Pack to get your email.

[t3rror]

I recieved my BB yesterday and had the CS rep turn on basic vision for my account. The problem that I have run into is this. The gray button will not bring up the browser, and I don't have an icon on the main menu to start the browser. Right now there is no way for me to attempt to access the web. Maybe someone could help me out here.

[Scrumptious]

Its not listed as a Vision phone at all. According to the website (I assume) you will need to order the BB Pack to get your email.

Yeah it is listed with the PDA's but it has powervision ;)

[Scrumptious]

I recieved my BB yesterday and had the CS rep turn on basic vision for my account. The problem that I have run into is this. The gray button will not bring up the browser, and I don't have an icon on the main menu to start the browser. Right now there is no way for me to attempt to access the web. Maybe someone could help me out here.

A couple people here given reviews on this phone and maybe one of them will drop by and help you out. Mine is at home waiting on me so I will not be able to help you until I get home to mine and have it outta the box. Have you read the user guide because I had a vision plan on a powervision phone in the past and it has worked. I am sure it could be different because this is a blackberry but I would assume not. I know one person stated they did an ESN swap and did not add the blackberry plan without a problem so you should not have any problems.

[t3rror]

A couple people here given reviews on this phone and maybe one of them will drop by and help you out. Mine is at home waiting on me so I will not be able to help you until I get home to mine and have it outta the box. Have you read the user guide because I had a vision plan on a powervision phone in the past and it has worked. I am sure it could be different because this is a blackberry but I would assume not. I know one person stated they did an ESN swap and did not add the blackberry plan without a problem so you should not have any problems.

Thanks for the response. I called CS and started a basic vision plan $15. It took about 40 minutes, but then my phone was registered with the network, and the browser 'activated'. This was interesting. The browser was installed, b/c I could see the version number when I went to Options > Advanced Options > Applications. I could not start the browser at all until my BB registered with the network after I had the vision plan started. The voice had been working for 24 hours. Now everything is golden. Browser works, and I was able to install Google Talk without problems. My gmail and hotmail accounts are now setup and pushing email to the BB. I set this up by going to the link that was provided earlier in this thread. If anyone has any questions, post them, and I will see what I can do to help.

[ievolve]

I posted earlier frustrated with my 700p and the chattermail "true push" which as near as I can tell is anything but...

Anyway t3rror can you tell me a little more about how "true push" works on the blackberry? If you are on a call will it notify you that new mail has arrived? If you are checking your mail can you still receive a phone call? I saw you hooked up gmail and hotmail. Will blackberrys work with imap? If you get a mail message on your blackberry via pop does it stay on the server? Once again I dont have evdo in my area, but would like to do email from my phone, is the blackberry my best bet?

[EMR33]

Thanks for the response. I called CS and started a basic vision plan $15. It took about 40 minutes, but then my phone was registered with the network, and the browser 'activated'. This was interesting. The browser was installed, b/c I could see the version number when I went to Options > Advanced Options > Applications. I could not start the browser at all until my BB registered with the network after I had the vision plan started. The voice had been working for 24 hours. Now everything is golden. Browser works, and I was able to install Google Talk without problems. My gmail and hotmail accounts are now setup and pushing email to the BB. I set this up by going to the link that was provided earlier in this thread. If anyone has any questions, post them, and I will see what I can do to help.
How does the blackberry feel in your hands..is it ruggedized at all? I am going to be buying a PDA phone soon so anything you can say about how durable it feels would help.

[t3rror]

ievolve > I am not sure about the technicals. I did a little testing today between some email accounts, and I can surely see them on my computer before they show up on the BB, but then after a couple of minutes, they show up on my BB. Currently I can view them all together by going to Messages, and I can also view each individual account. The way that I see the push technology working is this. You setup an account with Sprint and it asks you for the email addresses and the passwords to those addresses. I believe that something on Sprint's side does the automatic polling of your email accounts and delivers anything new it finds to your BB. Hope this helps.

EMR33 > I quite like the feel of the device. It is not ruggedized in the sense that it is encased in rubber pads, but it does feel very sturdy without being too heavy. I would strongly suggest getting a screen protector for it, and I am currently looking into what I want as a clip. I am probably going to go with something leather, although, I have been carrying it in my dress pants pockets today. I would not suggest putting it in jean pockets.


I also cannot report the same problems with the Suretype system. I have not had very many problems with it, and I feel that I have mastered it in one day. One thing to do when you are using the Suretype though, don't pay attention to what it is showing on the screen until you are completely through typing a word. Sometimes i will be typing out some long words, and it is a garbled mess while i am typing, but by the time I finish, it has the correct word there. It takes a little getting used to, but just have a little faith and things are liable to come out alright.

[Scrumptious]

Wow this things is going to keep me away from SU today. Nice post t3rror I had a case for it when it got here it is a very nice phone. I will have to post my feelings on this phone tomorrow. Suretype is not much different from T9 to me. I think I am going to love this thing!

[pauljaxfl]

I have had my blackberry 7130e 3 days now and I absolutely love it. It paired with my 06 Acura RL without issue. It will not do the Acura link data connection over Bluetooth for the car but it does work well with the hands free calling including displaying battery life and signal strength on the car’s information display.

I ran into a couple of problems with the vision on the phone. I bought the phone while adding a line of service and it was shipped to me pre-activated. After a day of fooling with it I could not get it to receive email or browse the internet. After calling customer service I had to have the vision re-provisioned then the proper icons showed up on the blackberry and I started receiving email and browsing the internet on the blackberry.

Today I tried to use it as a modem. Even though the $40 bb data plan includes unlimited vision it was not set up to actually work. They had to add PAM to my account. Sprint said it did not cost anything more but that it had to be added specifically for it to work. I read a review on another blackberry forum that stated another user had had this same issue. Once it was added to the plan I was able to connect my laptop using the USB cable without issue.

[Jzajzz]

I saw this phone in the store today and the rep told me that this is the first blackberry that u can use the reg $15 power vision. A second rep confirmed it and they looked it up as well.

im noit familiar with blackberries .... but why do carriers have separate plans for them...

btw.. you're haitian?

[Jzajzz]

look at the difference between this thread and the Treo thread... Did the lawsuit have a negative effect on Blackberries?

[Scrumptious]

I think they are like apples and oranges. I do not want a big treo but this blackberry is just right for me. I do not have a blackberry plan either and I am able to use all the features. I think between the 7130 and my 9000 ALL my needs have been met phone / PDA wise.

[EMR33]

EMR33 > I quite like the feel of the device. It is not ruggedized in the sense that it is encased in rubber pads, but it does feel very sturdy without being too heavy. I would strongly suggest getting a screen protector for it, and I am currently looking into what I want as a clip. I am probably going to go with something leather, although, I have been carrying it in my dress pants pockets today. I would not suggest putting it in jean pockets.


Great that helps alot. I guess the only way to get a phone as durable as a brick would be going back to Nextel. I think I'm going to go to the store tonight after work and just get a feel for all the new phones. I was looking on Ebay at an A900, but I really would love to have a blackberry for the bluetooth and keyboard. Thanks.

[ejlee7829]

As long as I DON'T have to sign up for BB service, this will be my next phone.

[ejlee7829]

I think I am sold

[Scrumptious]

Go for it you get 14 days to test it out.

[SU_Diva*]

Well I picked up the Blackberry Thursday and I have been impressed so far. I was coming from thr 6700 and I am very happy that I made the switch. It is so good to be able to text and do everything with one hand as well as to be able to dial with the actual keys. This is also my first Blackberry. I love everything about the phone so far and if anyone has any questions for ma feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.

Also I did not opt for the 15 buck power vision plan, mainly because I had a connection card as well, but I would prefer to use the PAM and come out cheaper in the long run.

[Scrumptious]

This is my first Blackberry too Tamaraa and I am in the Queen City loving my blackberry too!!!

[thetruth]

Well I picked up the Blackberry Thursday and I have been impressed so far. I was coming from thr 6700 and I am very happy that I made the switch. It is so good to be able to text and do everything with one hand as well as to be able to dial with the actual keys. This is also my first Blackberry. I love everything about the phone so far and if anyone has any questions for ma feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.

Also I did not opt for the 15 buck power vision plan, mainly because I had a connection card as well, but I would prefer to use the PAM and come out cheaper in the long run.

Did you get the blackberry unlimited web/email?

[SU_Diva*]

This is my first Blackberry too Tamaraa and I am in the Queen City loving my blackberry too!!!

Oh in the Queen City huh...I love my BB more and more everyday. I wil have to give you my BB Pin so we can use the BB chat. I have no one there yet.

[SU_Diva*]

Did you get the blackberry unlimited web/email?

Yes I got the one that was $39.99 unlimited everything, I wonder why they don't include texting...makes me mad.

[SU_Diva*]

im noit familiar with blackberries .... but why do carriers have separate plans for them...

btw.. you're haitian?


Something about having the BB plans, I guess because you use the data for some much when you are using the BB. I haven't figured it out myself so I may not be the right one to answer this.

No I'm not haitian, why'd you ask me that???

[gtcaz]

I'm a bit confused. Can I get the 7130e w/o the BB plan? If so, do I just loose corporate email access? (My employer does use Notes nationwide but doesn't currently support mobile devices. Sprint Biz Connect on the desktop would probably be a security violation.)

Basically I want EVDO browsing, email, PDA stuff, and perhaps tethering. The 700p looks sweet, but I can't justify spending that much at this point.

Right now I'm on a Fair & Flex for families plan with 2 lines ($69.99) with $10 vision ($5 after courtesy discount) and less 15% MRC discount. My line is eligible for the $150 phone credit.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Found the following thread & am reading...
http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101883

[pldelaney]

I agree with gtcaz. I want to get this phone, but I am not elegible for an upgrade. I would need to buy outright. I want to then just do an ESN change, WITHOUT losing any of my current plan, and not having to add the BB data plan. WIll I be able to get my company's email, or just my personal Outlook email?

[gtcaz]

I agree with gtcaz. I want to get this phone, but I am not elegible for an upgrade. I would need to buy outright. I want to then just do an ESN change, WITHOUT losing any of my current plan, and not having to add the BB data plan. WIll I be able to get my company's email, or just my personal Outlook email?

One guy recommended calling telesales and then activating the BlackBerry yourself after you receive it.

[t3rror]

That is what I did.

[ejlee7829]

That is what I did.

What price did you get through Telesales?

[t3rror]

$200

[pldelaney]

How did you manage that? Were you not buying the phone outright?

[bcoutlander]

So how about some reviews?? I am still considering the BB over the Treo 700.

TIA

[t3rror]

I am very impressed with the BB. Yesterday I got it setup for work. After setting the account up in BES, I went through the Enterprise Activation and it took all of 5 minutes before I started recieving emails. My Calendar was immediately synched with my Outlook calendar. I am very impressed with BES.

If I was using this for only personal things, I would also be very happy. In fact, I used the BB for the first week only for personal emails. The battery life is superb. Some at work have the 8700 with cingular, and they were giving me hell about not having a full keyboard, but I have had little trouble adjusting to it.

I also installed a couple of pieces of software that are killer apps in my book. The first is jmirc. It is an IRC client, and man do I feel like a geek being able to check my favorite channels anywhere. The other is MidpSSH. It is a telnet SSH client and allows me to remotely administer systems very easily. It even allows me to access internal work systems by designating the BES connection compared to the TCP connection provided by Sprint. I am always looking for some new software that will make work a little more manageable, and I believe this does.

One thing that I am still looking for is a decent case. I don't know what I am going to do just yet, and am still mulling over some options. If you decide to purchase this unit, I will urge you to purchase a screen protector. I got this http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/BBY7130E.html I was able to install it in a matter of minutes last night, and I feel better about putting the BB in my pocket now. It also has a lifetime guarantee. Can't beat that.

I have not found anything to complain about yet, and this is definitely the best $200 phone I have ever had.

[ejlee7829]

How did you manage that? Were you not buying the phone outright?

Yea, how did you manage that price???????

[t3rror]

I am not really sure. I have been a customer with Sprint for 4 years, and my first phone lasted that long. I initially called to check if I could activate a used Alltell BB, which they wouldn't do. I was a little upset about that and stated how I could go with Cingular and take my number. I told them GSM phones just required the SIM card to be swapped and that was an attractive feature for me. He balked and asked me to hold for a second. When he came back he apologized for not being able to activate the Alltell phone, and quoted me the $200 price for the BB 7250. I told him that was the older model and I didn't want to pay that much for it. I asked if he knew about the new BB, and he looked it up and said he could offer it to me at the same price. I purchased it right then and there. Sometimes you have to wonder about telesales. I knew this was a great price and jumped on it.

[ejlee7829]

cool
im going to have to try to swing that

[Scrumptious]

I have the Krusell case for my blackberry and I love it. It stays on my phone all the time and covers my screen and buttons so I have no need for the screen protector.

[ejlee7829]

Its FINALLY on orde

[t3rror]

how did the process go? did they force you to get the BB data plan? give us some details.

[jmbky1]

I am not really sure. I have been a customer with Sprint for 4 years, and my first phone lasted that long. I initially called to check if I could activate a used Alltell BB, which they wouldn't do. I was a little upset about that and stated how I could go with Cingular and take my number. I told them GSM phones just required the SIM card to be swapped and that was an attractive feature for me. He balked and asked me to hold for a second. When he came back he apologized for not being able to activate the Alltell phone, and quoted me the $200 price for the BB 7250. I told him that was the older model and I didn't want to pay that much for it. I asked if he knew about the new BB, and he looked it up and said he could offer it to me at the same price. I purchased it right then and there. Sometimes you have to wonder about telesales. I knew this was a great price and jumped on it.


thanks for the great advice. ive been lurking for a while wanting a 7130.

i called and told them cingular had a blackberry for 149.99 and i was going to go for it since im out of contract and they price matched it for me! no renewal of contract or anything. $149.99 unactivated!! im so pumped

[River1979]

If you qualify based on your employer or what school you're attending, order your 7130 through business. Prices are the same, but the business blackberry plan includes 200 text messages. BUT, after 200 is $0.15 compared to $0.10 for personal.

On Ebay, the phone is free with new activation

[Chicago1]

Yes, you can but they told me that you cannot get email then. ALso, the 40. incl. using the phone as a modem....unlimited.

I got the 920 for the camera and my wife the 7130. I used the focus area to u/l ringers and pix for my 920 and wow, how cool was that. Making any cd track a ringer. But I do not know what the file format is for the 7130 ringer. Can anyone help? Want to send my wife some ringers cuz many that come with it are, well, cheazy.

[jmbky1]

Yes, you can but they told me that you cannot get email then. ALso, the 40. incl. using the phone as a modem....unlimited.

I got the 920 for the camera and my wife the 7130. I used the focus area to u/l ringers and pix for my 920 and wow, how cool was that. Making any cd track a ringer. But I do not know what the file format is for the 7130 ringer. Can anyone help? Want to send my wife some ringers cuz many that come with it are, well, cheazy.


www.blackberryforums.com

theyll give you all the answers you need and then some.

[NorthernYankee]

Whats the # for telesales?

[Scrumptious]

Yes, you can but they told me that you cannot get email then. ALso, the 40. incl. using the phone as a modem....unlimited.

I got the 920 for the camera and my wife the 7130. I used the focus area to u/l ringers and pix for my 920 and wow, how cool was that. Making any cd track a ringer. But I do not know what the file format is for the 7130 ringer. Can anyone help? Want to send my wife some ringers cuz many that come with it are, well, cheazy.
Not true that is how I got my phone free from sprintnetwork... I have a blackberry email account and do not have a blackberry plan. :deal:

If you want to opt for the blackberry plan the month after then that would be the route I would take if you want the PAM. You still get the phone for free... I have a powervision plan on my blackberry and get my email and use my browser just fine. I have not tried PAM but read where someone who got a regular vision plan called and the rep straightened it out without adding the blackberry plan to the persons account. I know calling CS is like flipping a coin but I think a free phone is worth it when you can change your plan after 30 days. Think of it this way the only thing you would be missing is PAM for a month.

[Askani]

thanks for the great advice. ive been lurking for a while wanting a 7130.

i called and told them cingular had a blackberry for 149.99 and i was going to go for it since im out of contract and they price matched it for me! no renewal of contract or anything. $149.99 unactivated!! im so pumped

You called telesales and told them this? Nice. Will have to give it a try. Don't want to make the switch, but tempted by cheaper priced blackberries.

[ejlee7829]

It will work fine. When you get a Blackberry, you go to www.sprint.com/webmailsetup and then follow the prompts. You enter the PIN and ESN of the blackberry and then you set up what email accounts that will be pushed to your phone. In addition, you can sign up for an email address for your BB so you can forward all of your email there (that is the fastest way to get messages pushed to your device).

I tried this but its not working

[Scrumptious]

It worked for me what problem are you having?

[ejlee7829]

it does not have a browser

[Scrumptious]

I would call sprint at this point.

[ejlee7829]

I think I am making a little headway. I provisioned it and now the EVDO is working. Still can't find the browser, is there a browser icon?

[ejlee7829]

I really would rather trudge through this myself without calling sprint (unless extremely necessary)

[Scrumptious]

There should be an Icon it looks like a globe. So you didn't get on a computer and set up an email account or push mail yet?

[ejlee7829]

All that is setup, I don't see a globe......
I sent the service books to the bb from that site where the accounts are listed

[ejlee7829]

I'd rather not go through several CSRs to find the right one with the right info. UNLESS I really have to

[ejlee7829]

Welllll, the BB is going ByBy. I tried to add the BB plan to it BUT, you cna't add the BB plan to a SERO account. The computer will not accept it. SOOOOOO, I am NOT going to pay that horendous monthly charge without the SERO plan. It was great while it lasted................................

[Scrumptious]

Oh didn't know you had a SERO plan. My phone is a new phone on a new plan. My SERO plan is on my 9000...

[ejlee7829]

Yep, but that is not why the browser wouldn't work though. Like I said before, some people have all the luck. :)

[jmbky1]

power vision works on sero right?


just use power vision. ive got my bb now working without a bb data plan, but ill attempt to add power vision soon

[ejlee7829]

power vision works on sero right?


just use power vision. ive got my bb now working without a bb data plan, but ill attempt to add power vision soon

For some, it works; for mine, It won't. I could not find the browser, and it started to display a "refuse data" message.

[ejlee7829]

and yes, power vision is a part of the SERO plan

[Scrumptious]

Yep, but that is not why the browser wouldn't work though. Like I said before, some people have all the luck. :)

See jmbky1 got his working without a blackberry plan. ;)

[t3rror]

Actually, the BB doesn't have the browser enabled until you establish data connection with Sprint. You need to enable a Vision plan (probably through a CSR) for your BB. They will send out the network calls, and in a few minutes to a couple of hours, the BB will get the calls. At this point the browser 'installs' and you are able to use it.

Last weekend, I had some business in a building notorious for dropping cell coverage. After being in the building for a couple of minutes, I checked my BB and it said Data Connection Refused. I looked a little closer, and it was because the phone thought I was roaming. I walked outside, and the roaming went away and I had normal coverage, but the Data connection was still refused. I attempted to re-provision my phone, and give it a cold boot (pull the battery), but neither of these worked. I finally called CSR and they resent the network calls to my phone. Everything has worked since. I know it is kinda confusing, but this is the way that I had to get my BB working.

[Scrumptious]

t3rror he got the message that he had a connection with sprint I did not know what else to tell him. I got messages stating I had a connection with sprint before my browser started working too... BB are new to sprint and I think that people will continue to experience these issues I compare it to Grandfathered vision because some people are able to get blackberry push mail and surf with a vision plan or a power vision plan and some can't.

[ejlee7829]

I called and the guy said the only thing he could do is have me do the exact same thing which was re-provision it. I did it before and got the 1xEV but after that I tried to re-send the books and nothing came through. I tried a total of 5 times to send the service books. I did not have a browser icon at all.

[Brooose]

It seems like the new Blackberry may require a BB unlimited plan to be absolutely sure it provisions properly. I was lucky when I had mine but I know of other people who HAD to get the BB unlimited added to their accounts before the service books with the browser and email accounts could be pushed to the device. If you get the BB plan, you could get your device provisioned and then try to switch back to a regular PV plan. That might work and allow you to use BB email with a regular plan. Good luck finding someone who will do that for you, though. :(

[SU_Diva*]

Welllll, the BB is going ByBy. I tried to add the BB plan to it BUT, you cna't add the BB plan to a SERO account. The computer will not accept it. SOOOOOO, I am NOT going to pay that horendous monthly charge without the SERO plan. It was great while it lasted................................


Not true...I have a BB plan w/ PAM on a $30 Sero plan. ]

[SU_Diva*]

It seems like the new Blackberry may require a BB unlimited plan to be absolutely sure it provisions properly. I was lucky when I had mine but I know of other people who HAD to get the BB unlimited added to their accounts before the service books with the browser and email accounts could be pushed to the device. If you get the BB plan, you could get your device provisioned and then try to switch back to a regular PV plan. That might work and allow you to use BB email with a regular plan. Good luck finding someone who will do that for you, though. :(

That's strange because in the store here they are telling me that this is the first BB that you don't have to have the BB plan.

[Scrumptious]

Maybe it is a Charlotte thing? Just kidding maybe the reps here do not know anything about bb plans? I got mine on ebay but still that is an interesting point.

[SU_Diva*]

Maybe it is a Charlotte thing? Just kidding maybe the reps here do not know anything about bb plans? I got mine on ebay but still that is an interesting point.

That's what I was thinking too, but they looked it up on like a fact sheet for the BB and it was there. I asked at the South Park store and in University.

[SU_Diva*]

The guy in the University store also told me that the BB could play Mp3's was that false as well???

[Scrumptious]

I have not been able to do it.

[SU_Diva*]

I have not been able to do it.


So what about call tones...etc. I am on hold waiting on BB Tech Support to find out what my phone CAN do. I am wondering if the functions are different if I have the BB plan and PAM

[Scrumptious]

The blackberry home page gives you a page that displays different free ringers you can download. I have a couple of games, opera mini, goggle maps, yahoo messenger, blackberry messenger, push weather, and a couple of new wallpaper pics. PM me your pin I will send you mine!

[River1979]

That's strange because in the store here they are telling me that this is the first BB that you don't have to have the BB plan.

You're right, you don't have to get the BB plan with the phone. Go to Sprint's website and see for yourself; you have a choice of selecting the BB plan for 39.99 or no plan at all. So Sero does work on the 7130? Are you paying 39.99 for the BB plan or did Sprint give you a discount like Nextel? Nextel is charging 19.99 for their Sero Blackberry plan.

[bcoutlander]

Well, I took the plunge today and ordered a 7130. I am not sure if it will replace my Treo 700 or not. But, I was getting tired of the lag and a couple of freeze ups. So, we will see how it goes.

For those with the 7130 already how is the outgoing/incoming voice quality on the phone? and with a BT headset? And which headset do you use?

[SU_Diva*]

You're right, you don't have to get the BB plan with the phone. Go to Sprint's website and see for yourself; you have a choice of selecting the BB plan for 39.99 or no plan at all. So Sero does work on the 7130? Are you paying 39.99 for the BB plan or did Sprint give you a discount like Nextel? Nextel is charging 19.99 for their Sero Blackberry plan.

With everything in my siggy I think my plan is better than anything I could get from nextel even with the 20.00 plan...the BB on that network would seriously suck compared to Sprints so it is really no comparison.

[ejlee7829]

Not true...I have a BB plan w/ PAM on a $30 Sero plan. ]

The Rep that I spoke to, tried to add the BB plan but said the computer would not take it. So, I don't know waht happened. Are you sure you got the BB plan?

[ejlee7829]

I really did want to keep the phone if I could but............................

[Scrumptious]

Yep that is a heck of a plan you got there Tam!

I am going to just go with text, PV and a small number of minutes on my blackberry. I had to get a $60 plan for the first month to get the blackberry free. The sound quality of a phone call can not touch my Sanyo and it is on a SERO plan so no need for lots more minutes. My brother says it sounds like I am on speaker phone when I am not... So yeah I will carry two phones because I really am a geek and hell I got the room in my purse why not?

EjLee I think it is just a matter of you getting the right person to help you out and I hope you get to keep it.

[Scrumptious]

Also I will be investing in a extended battery and the desktop charger is on the way already! As long as your a connected to the net your phone sucks your battery dry!!!

[ejlee7829]

Well, my650 is on the way but, I am going to try to see if they can re-provision it from Sprint.

[ejlee7829]

I got sprint to switch my old number to the new account. The procedure they used, reset the phone. Unfortunately, this had no effect on my ability to get the browser icon.

[SU_Diva*]

The Rep that I spoke to, tried to add the BB plan but said the computer would not take it. So, I don't know waht happened. Are you sure you got the BB plan?

Positive...just tell them you won't stay if you can't get both because you were told they could coexist. I didn't even have to do all of that though, I know the BB plan was on the account first and then the SERO if that makes a difference.

[SU_Diva*]

Yep that is a heck of a plan you got there Tam!

I am going to just go with text, PV and a small number of minutes on my blackberry. I had to get a $60 plan for the first month to get the blackberry free. The sound quality of a phone call can not touch my Sanyo and it is on a SERO plan so no need for lots more minutes. My brother says it sounds like I am on speaker phone when I am not... So yeah I will carry two phones because I really am a geek and hell I got the room in my purse why not?

EjLee I think it is just a matter of you getting the right person to help you out and I hope you get to keep it.
Room in my purse too, have minutes on my nextel and free incoming not a lot of need for a rack on minutes on Sprint. Now if I could just find room for the sidekick 3 just for a few months I would be good...too much ya think ???

[Scrumptious]

My new best friend someone who loves phones and gadgets just as much as I do! You may not need the additional battery and charger having 3 phones.

[jten9]

I got sprint to switch my old number to the new account. The procedure they used, reset the phone. Unfortunately, this had no effect on my ability to get the browser icon.

ejlee7829... I just picked up the 7130, and had the same problems you had... no browser icon. I sent updated books, etc, and still had no luck.

But, try this if you have not already, it worked for me-
1) Go to 'Options'
2) Highlight and click 'Network'
3) When in the Network screen, click again... this will bring up a menu, highlight and click 'Start Provisioning'

That updated the home screen with browser icons. :)

Hope that helps.

[SU_Diva*]

My new best friend someone who loves phones and gadgets just as much as I do! You may not need the additional battery and charger having 3 phones.


You know it...best friends who love gadgets are the best...cause they never turn their nose up at your addiction... :lol:

[Scrumptious]

YAAAA thanks Tam MP3 ringers on the BB through pinstack OTA!!!!

[ejlee7829]

ejlee7829... I just picked up the 7130, and had the same problems you had... no browser icon. I sent updated books, etc, and still had no luck.

But, try this if you have not already, it worked for me-
1) Go to 'Options'
2) Highlight and click 'Network'
3) When in the Network screen, click again... this will bring up a menu, highlight and click 'Start Provisioning'

That updated the home screen with browser icons. :)

Hope that helps.

I tried that several times yesterday and today.......Got the 650 hooked up on the line now so I won't worry about it. Thanks for all the help that you guys provided for me, it is surely appreciated. :)

[Jake]

Wirelessly posted (Jake's Phone...: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Symbian OS; Nokia 6682/3.01.1; 7032) Opera 8.51 [en-US] UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

If you buy the phone outright, just call in and do an ESN swap. I have had blackberries on my account with standard $5 Add a phone vision and it has worked fine and there have been no extra charges.You must have a hookup at the Sprint store because the reps always tell me they haft to activate it.

If it was a person I didn't know that was working and they said that I would just tell them it was a present for a friend.

[Scrumptious]

I got my themes and MP3 ringers on the blackberry with all the apps I have installed I am in love! I tried to get clear pics but this was the best I could do!

[bcoutlander]

I received my 7130 today and just did the ESN swap thing and it worked great as a phone and that was it!! I tried the provisioning under network and created an account at BIS site and it was all a no go. Called the SPCS Business Dept, hit option 2 and I was up in running within 10 minutes(after waiting on hold for about 20).

[Askani]

I received my 7130 today and just did the ESN swap thing and it worked great as a phone and that was it!! I tried the provisioning under network and created an account at BIS site and it was all a no go. Called the SPCS Business Dept, hit option 2 and I was up in running within 10 minutes(after waiting on hold for about 20).

Did you sign up for the BB Data plan? What's the Busines Dept's #?

[bcoutlander]

Did you sign up for the BB Data plan? What's the Busines Dept's #?

Yes, I did sign up for the unlimited BB plan. The business dept number is 888.788.4727 and just ask to speak with someone in BB Support.

[thetruth]

This Thread Has Grown A Lot!

[bcoutlander]

Here is the direct number to SPCS Business Device support 877.654.9111

[bcoutlander]

Posted a review comparing the 7130 to the Treo 700p here:

http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1074987#post1074987

[Scrumptious]

Truth send me your pin you added me but I did not add you!

[Scrumptious]

Posted a review comparing the 7130 to the Treo 700p here:

http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1074987#post1074987

Get the Zen theme and it will keep your SMS in a different spot than your e-mails I do not know if this is what you meant when you were talking about the threading (I have never owned a treo and this is my first blackberry) The theme was the winner for me anyway because it looks cool and not so crowded you can actually see your wallpaper. It is listed on pinstack and you can download it OTA. I can post it if you want to try it out.

I am going to get another battery from ebay I just can not decide if I want the standard or extended and the external battery charger is on the way already.

I do not plan to use this much as a phone so camera was not a big loss for me will you be keeping your blade?

I thought the treo was much bigger thanks for the thread I may try one some day...;)

[Scrumptious]

External battery charger is here!!! :headbang2

[bcoutlander]

Get the Zen theme and it will keep your SMS in a different spot than your e-mails I do not know if this is what you meant when you were talking about the threading (I have never owned a treo and this is my first blackberry) The theme was the winner for me anyway because it looks cool and not so crowded you can actually see your wallpaper. It is listed on pinstack and you can download it OTA. I can post it if you want to try it out.


What I meant by threaded SMS is that when you look at your SMS's on the Treo it looks like an IM conversation window.

[jumpman5k]

if anyone is having trouble with the internet browser icon popping up on your phone, a quick fix to it is going to Network -> Network Selection Mode -> Click Trackwheel to change option -> Home Only Option . The phone is set up in Automatic mode when you first purchase it. Setting it to Home Only allows for it to only be on the Sprint Network, allowing for set up of the Internet Icon and other options.

then if its still taking awhile, you want to go to Options -> Advanced Options -> Host Routing Table -> Click on the first line and click on Register Now. You wanna do that 3 times total, then everything should work in a few minutes.

KEY THING: you don't need the BB 39.99 unlimited plan to browse the Internet. All you need is the power vision and thats it.

[NorthernYankee]

I just tried calling Telesales and they told me that if I wanted to upgrade my phone they would only give me the phone for $329 (479-150) why is it that new customers can get it for $199 but they won't cut existing customers a break.

[Scrumptious]

What I meant by threaded SMS is that when you look at your SMS's on the Treo it looks like an IM conversation window.
Gotcha guess the zen theme will do nothing for you then... Atleast you got to give it a test run. :)

[bcoutlander]

Well, I activated the 7130 on another line today. I really want to like this phone so I am going to run it head to head with the Treo for a couple of days. Now if I can just find the OTA link for the Zen theme. Could someone please PIN it to me? Here is my PIN 3013be01 Thanks

[Askani]

I just tried calling Telesales and they told me that if I wanted to upgrade my phone they would only give me the phone for $329 (479-150) why is it that new customers can get it for $199 but they won't cut existing customers a break.

When I called them, they said I could get it at the normal price minus the $150 and $130 (both mail in rebates) to bring it to $199. I believe they thought I would be adding another line of service (never told them I would). I called retention and they were able to match it to Verizon ($249.99 before $50 rebate) at $249 then give me a $50 credit on next month’s bill. The total for me was $179 (no idea where they got that as it's not equal to the $75 off I was entitled to and I never agree for contract extension). I just did the ESN swap on my 7130e a little while ago (CSR was surprised when I asked her if she had access to P2K).

[Askani]

So, I did an ESN swap via *2 and I ask CSR if she has access to P2K. She confirms. She does the swap and confirms that the swap is done. I wait for Vision access on the phone to occur. Hours later and still nothing. I check online and I no longer see vision on my line (still see it on other lines on my account). Of course Sprint it closed and I have no remedy for this problem. The swap should have worked fine and not affected my vision. :irked:

[Jaggrey]

reminds me of when I activated my 700p when I still had the grandaddy vision. She said that she had made no changes to my account, yet when i checked online Vision was gone.

[Askani]

Well, I called this morning and found that they indeed did remove my vision plan. I had them switch it back but they had to put my old phone back. I called back later and was able to get someone to do the ESN swap and keep my vision. My problem now is that my BIS has been suspended and the BB tech support says they can't fix it unless I get a BB plan.

[ejlee7829]

DeJa vu............ same thing that happened to me

[Askani]

I was able to get them to reactivate my BIS account and resend the service books but still hasn't hit the device as I don't have the internet browser yet.

[ejlee7829]

You are going through the same problem that I had.

[ejlee7829]

if anyone is having trouble with the internet browser icon popping up on your phone, a quick fix to it is going to Network -> Network Selection Mode -> Click Trackwheel to change option -> Home Only Option . The phone is set up in Automatic mode when you first purchase it. Setting it to Home Only allows for it to only be on the Sprint Network, allowing for set up of the Internet Icon and other options.

then if its still taking awhile, you want to go to Options -> Advanced Options -> Host Routing Table -> Click on the first line and click on Register Now. You wanna do that 3 times total, then everything should work in a few minutes.

KEY THING: you don't need the BB 39.99 unlimited plan to browse the Internet. All you need is the power vision and thats it.

Have you tried these steps?????? I don't know if they work or not as this was posted after I swapped to my 650.

[bcoutlander]

Have you tried these steps?????? I don't know if they work or not as this was posted after I swapped to my 650.


I tried them but they would not work. I could not get data going unless I signed up for the BB plan.

[Askani]

I tired all of those options as well as provisioning via the handset. Guess I will have to call again and have them resend the book or reprovision the device. I do have internet access via Opera Mini Browser. Just no email or blackberry browser.

[ejlee7829]

Its sad to say but, we are among the unlucky with the BB. I had to trade mine in for a 650.

[Scrumptious]

Sorry to hear about your problems Askani hope you get it straighten out. Only thing I can say is that you may have better luck in the store? Maybe Broose can help since he decided to come back to the BB. I just have powervision myself but it just happened that way for me when I added a line. Tamaraa and Broose did ESN swaps though... and Tamaraa did hers in store locally here.

Broose Tam correct me if I am wrong...

Can you PIN through BB messenger or through email?

[Brooose]

I am sorry to say that I had to add the Business EVDO Blackberry Unlimited for $38 to get my BB to provision properly. If I don't do that, I can get my push email and internet but only at 1X speeds, no EVDO. It seems that Sprint has now started to restrict access to EVDO at least for Blackberry people. Perhaps a lucky few can get all of the Blackberry services with a regular vision plan. When I tried the 7250, I was able to do this. Now that I have the 7130, the only way I can get the services and EVDO is with a BB data plan. Sad but true. At least it includes PAM!

[bcoutlander]

The having the BB plan was the dealbreaker for me. I get PV included in my plan so I really didn't want to add the $40/month for everything I could do on the Treo 700p. And actually I could do less on the BB than the Treo.

I had the same experience with the 7250 as Broose; in the fact I was able to use it several times and get full service without the BB plan. I am guessing SPCS has figured out a way, not completely, that makes it harder to do with the 7130. The 7130 really was a great device, I liked the keyboard on the 7130 much better than the Treo's. But the battery life was not as good with my usage anyway. I wish I could have kept both and switched back and forth with a sim too bad there is no way to do that with SPCS right now.

[Askani]

I only have Vision, but get EVDO speeds with the phone. My only problem is that I am not getting the service books to make the browser available and sent receive emails. I'm thinking I may have to add the blackberry plan on (is it possible to do so and still retain my grandfathered vision). to get this working. Once it's working I may then go and remove then plan as another user has done (yet still have the service working).

[Scrumptious]

I am sorry to say that I had to add the Business EVDO Blackberry Unlimited for $38 to get my BB to provision properly. If I don't do that, I can get my push email and internet but only at 1X speeds, no EVDO. It seems that Sprint has now started to restrict access to EVDO at least for Blackberry people. Perhaps a lucky few can get all of the Blackberry services with a regular vision plan. When I tried the 7250, I was able to do this. Now that I have the 7130, the only way I can get the services and EVDO is with a BB data plan. Sad but true. At least it includes PAM!

:scare: That blows big time... Well if I have any issues I will let you know but currently I am still getting EVDO with no problems on my PV plan. If there is a problem I will just ride up to sprint like Tam and see what they can do for me. Seems our local Sprint is not following suit.

[Brooose]

:scare: That blows big time... Well if I have any issues I will let you know but currently I am still getting EVDO with no problems on my PV plan. If there is a problem I will just ride up to sprint like Tam and see what they can do for me. Seems our local Sprint is not following suit.

You are one of the lucky ones! I hope everything keeps working. I bet if you got in right when the 7130 came out on Sprint, it was possible to activate it without a BB plan. They plugged that hole pretty quickly, though. :(

[SU_Diva*]

I only have Vision, but get EVDO speeds with the phone. My only problem is that I am not getting the service books to make the browser available and sent receive emails. I'm thinking I may have to add the blackberry plan on (is it possible to do so and still retain my grandfathered vision). to get this working. Once it's working I may then go and remove then plan as another user has done (yet still have the service working).


I am almost positive that you will not be able to add the BB plan and keep the PV. When adding the BB plan if PV is on the account the rep will get an error code because they cannot both be on the account. I may be wrong though...but that seems to be the same reason people cannot get the BB Plan and SERO since the PV is included with it.

[Cal]

I am almost positive that you will not be able to add the BB plan and keep the PV. When adding the BB plan if PV is on the account the rep will get an error code because they cannot both be on the account. I may be wrong though...but that seems to be the same reason people cannot get the BB Plan and SERO since the PV is included with it.

Correct. The reason why you cannot add BB plan to SERO is because SERO has a bundled internet package that cannot be removed.

If BB plan was added before SERO, that may be a different story. But any SERO people will have to give it up if they want the BB service.

[Askani]

It's possible that this can be done with P2K (same way a power vision phone is added to a vision plan). If not I will get the blackberry plan just to get the services books down to the handheld, then switch back to my vision plan.

[Cal]

It's possible that this can be done with P2K (same way a power vision phone is added to a vision plan). If not I will get the blackberry plan just to get the services books down to the handheld, then switch back to my vision plan.

I have never tried adding it through P2K, this situation has never come up in our store.

Do C.S. reps even have access to P2K? In retail only management have access to it..if this is the case in C.S., good luck finding a manager who would do it.

[ejlee7829]

I am almost positive that you will not be able to add the BB plan and keep the PV. When adding the BB plan if PV is on the account the rep will get an error code because they cannot both be on the account. I may be wrong though...but that seems to be the same reason people cannot get the BB Plan and SERO since the PV is included with it.

you know what...............that is probably the reason why I could not add it. Oh well

[Askani]

I have never tried adding it through P2K, this situation has never come up in our store.

Do C.S. reps even have access to P2K? In retail only management have access to it..if this is the case in C.S., good luck finding a manager who would do it.

No, I was able to get a non manager to add the 7130E to my account and I have regular Vision (this is not possible in Premiere and can only be done in P2K).

[gtcaz]

I only have Vision, but get EVDO speeds with the phone. My only problem is that I am not getting the service books to make the browser available and sent receive emails. I'm thinking I may have to add the blackberry plan on (is it possible to do so and still retain my grandfathered vision). to get this working. Once it's working I may then go and remove then plan as another user has done (yet still have the service working).

Could you use Opera for the browser?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/operamini/phones/?phone=blackberry_7130e

[Scrumptious]

You could but you would not get to enjoy all of the blackberry features... :td:

[bcoutlander]

I tried doing an ESN swap with putting the 7130 on my a900's line last night and that went through ok. But, I am unable to use Browser, Email or BB Messenger it seems. I can use Ramble and Google Maps though.... Go figure....

[Askani]

Yeah I can use all those others apps as well (how did you get google maps to install). I have Opera installed, but whenever I attempt to do an OTA install of apps it jumps to the BB browser which won't fully work due to the lack of service books.

[bcoutlander]

Yeah I can use all those others apps as well (how did you get google maps to install). I have Opera installed, but whenever I attempt to do an OTA install of apps it jumps to the BB browser which won't fully work due to the lack of service books.

I had this BB activated with a BB plan before and had installed Google Maps then. I had went back to my a900 and then a few days later called and switched back to the 7130 but it appears the rep who did that also took off my PV. So I will try to swing by my local store and see if that can get added back on.

On a different note, does any know if the BB will be able to do data roaming beginning next week? I know the 700p supports it and it would be another plus for the BB if it did also.

[t3rror]

I was in Nashville TN the other night for a Black Crowes concert, and my BB was getting 1XEV no problem. I still just have regular vision. For the ones that are having issues provisioning their phones, try removing the battery for a while and then restarting the phone with a 'cold' boot.

[SU_Diva*]

Do the above as stated but when the battery is removed hold down the power button for about 10 seconds. Then once putting the battery back in put ina call to *4 and let it go for about 19 seconds. This is what I have to do whenever my browser or yahoo won't connect. See if it works...Don't forget to make the call once the battery is back in that is an important step.

[t3rror]

Some news for you all. Yesterday it seems like Sprint starting taking action against BB phones that didn't have a BB plan associated with them. I called support after my voice and data services stopped working on the BB. The first CSR handed me to tier 1 BB support. From there it was determined that my service had been placed on hold until the BB plan was added to the account. She informed me that the voice service could be started again without a BB plan. I guess that it was done to ferret me out.

I really feel like I have been baited and hooked here. I am now outside of my 14 day return period, so if I wish to cancel, I will be out a $200 termination fee and $200 for the phone. To add insult, I added a second line to the account after I determined I was happy with the way things were working. That was done on the 15th day of service for the BB. Now the second line has gone over its 14 days also. That is another $200 termination fee. My issue with sprint right now is the fact that this action took place just after the termination fees went into effect.

I need the thing to work over this weekend, so I had the BB support rep start the BB data plan on my account, but I will be pursuing this further next wednesday. I would strongly urge anyone thinking about buying this phone and using it with a Power Vision plan to look somewhere else. The BB rep said that they were going to be doing audits of accounts, and this same action will take place on any account with a BB and no BB data plan. So, mine worked for a month using the Vision service, and then it was flagged and now it doesn't work. The BB support rep stated this was happening a lot this week due to Sprint tele-sales and store sales being misinformed about the BB. I say it is all complete crap. I really wish I would have gone with cingular now.

[Brooose]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7130e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

Sprint now has a 30 day return policy so you may be able to cancel without a problem.

[Scrumptious]

Wow will update on my plan if anything happens.

[Cal]

Some news for you all. Yesterday it seems like Sprint starting taking action against BB phones that didn't have a BB plan associated with them. I called support after my voice and data services stopped working on the BB. The first CSR handed me to tier 1 BB support. From there it was determined that my service had been placed on hold until the BB plan was added to the account. She informed me that the voice service could be started again without a BB plan. I guess that it was done to ferret me out.

I really feel like I have been baited and hooked here. I am now outside of my 14 day return period, so if I wish to cancel, I will be out a $200 termination fee and $200 for the phone. To add insult, I added a second line to the account after I determined I was happy with the way things were working. That was done on the 15th day of service for the BB. Now the second line has gone over its 14 days also. That is another $200 termination fee. My issue with sprint right now is the fact that this action took place just after the termination fees went into effect.

I need the thing to work over this weekend, so I had the BB support rep start the BB data plan on my account, but I will be pursuing this further next wednesday. I would strongly urge anyone thinking about buying this phone and using it with a Power Vision plan to look somewhere else. The BB rep said that they were going to be doing audits of accounts, and this same action will take place on any account with a BB and no BB data plan. So, mine worked for a month using the Vision service, and then it was flagged and now it doesn't work. The BB support rep stated this was happening a lot this week due to Sprint tele-sales and store sales being misinformed about the BB. I say it is all complete crap. I really wish I would have gone with cingular now.

Not to sound rude, but the people who got the BB without adding the plan knew they were doing it the "sneaky" way. It's only fair that they do this, because you really should have the plan to use the service. BB provides 24 hr support for their devices and excellent service. It's not fair to the people who do pay for the service.

Bottom line is that if you do not want to or cannot afford to pay for the BB service, maybe the device is not right for you? (Not you in particular t3rror, just people in general)

[Scrumptious]

Not to sound rude, but the people who got the BB without adding the plan knew they were doing it the "sneaky" way. It's only fair that they do this, because you really should have the plan to use the service. BB provides 24 hr support for their devices and excellent service. It's not fair to the people who do pay for the service.

Bottom line is that if you do not want to or cannot afford to pay for the BB service, maybe the device is not right for you? (Not you in particular t3rror, just people in general)


Nice point and I do not mind paying for it because I did not try to get the service by trying to be sneaky. I actually thought I was going to be without BB service for the first month. If I end up paying that will be fine but I will stay where I am until the end of the month when I was going to change my plan in the first place.

Regardless when I call to change my plan I don't think I will have any problems Sprint has always been helpful to me when I need something. I been a customer since 1997 and this is for my 2nd line.

Cal I know it was not meant personal to anyone including myself. (see you on BB messenger) :wavey:

Maybe after sprint looks back at plans like they did with the free incoming they will lower the price like Cingular plans to do on the BB data only plans they offer for $35.99. Until then it looks like it will be what it will be.

[SU_Diva*]

None of this makes sense to me and I don't think anyone was doing it in a sneaky way. I was told my 2 different stores and about 6 different reps that this would be the first BB that would work with just PV. I asked whether or not they were sure and they showed me the fact sheet. Maybe they were misinformed and it just meant that it was a PV device but still needed the BB plan which doesn't make sense.

Maybe Sprint was doing this is a sneaky way, getting people to getting people to get the device by saying they didn't have to get the BB plan and then turn around and audit their accounts. I need to call the people at the store that told me that and find out what's going on.

Doesn't matter to me either way as I have the BB plan, however it does get to me, because I know for a fact that I was told that by numerous reps.

[Cal]

None of this makes sense to me and I don't think anyone was doing it in a sneaky way. I was told my 2 different stores and about 6 different reps that this would be the first BB that would work with just PV. I asked whether or not they were sure and they showed me the fact sheet. Maybe they were misinformed and it just meant that it was a PV device but still needed the BB plan which doesn't make sense.

Maybe Sprint was doing this is a sneaky way, getting people to getting people to get the device by saying they didn't have to get the BB plan and then turn around and audit their accounts. I need to call the people at the store that told me that and find out what's going on.

Doesn't matter to me either way as I have the BB plan, however it does get to me, because I know for a fact that I was told that by numerous reps.

In cases like this where employee's of Sprint are giving people the wrong info, I don't think you were being sneaky. Those reps were obviously mis-informed. BB devices always have required the BB plan without exception and mangement should make sure their employee's relay this info to customers.

People who visit this board usually know the facts, so they shouldn't be complaining *if* their account gets audited and BB plan added. That's all I'm sayin' :)

[cctraderx]

Blackberries go thru the Blackberry servers for the push email and therefore need the BB plan, ie Sprint will get charged from BB- that's how it's been with other carriers. Sprint was new to BB and had a loophole of allowing BB service with vision or PV. However, Sprint should allow the BB to function as a phone and PDA for those not wanting to add the BB plan.

[cctraderx]

Also, for those just wanting to use the Vision or PV for browser, with BB service this also goes thru the BB servers and Sprint gets charged for that also. So in theory if no BB plan then no data service.

[thebigwilley]

This is what sprint cs sent me after I enquired about keeping my free internet, text messaging, etc. I have had forever and using it with the blackberry phone, so what gives? Either this person doesn't know what the policy is or something shady is happening in sprintsville....

Thank you for contacting Sprint together with Nextel. I will be happy
to assist you regarding the phone.

You can purchase a Blackberry Phone under the rebate offer.

I understand that you want to keep the $10.00 internet access pack on
your account, which includes Unlimited internet access, Unlimited Text
Messaging and Unlimited Picture Mail. However, the store representative
will add the Power Vision Pack to your account.

Simply write back to us after you upgrade your phone, and I will make
Power Vision Pack free to your account.

I appreciate you emailing us today. Thanks

Ronald
E-Care
Sprint together with Nextel
"Where our customers come first!"


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Question: I know I qualify for the $150 equipment credit since I've been
with you guys forever and haven't gotten a new phone, and i also realize
I have to re-up. However, no one can tell me if I get a Blackberry
Phone, if I have to have data service instead of my $10 all inclusive
internet that I have right now. I want to keep that and I think I've
been loyal and patient enough to do so, is there a way to keep that or
do I have to get a refurb phone somewhere else? Thanks.
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[SU_Diva*]

Bottom line they don't know themselves, I mean they sent out a freaking fact sheet stating the this BB did not need the BB plan.

[Scrumptious]

Bottom line they don't know themselves, I mean they sent out a freaking fact sheet stating the this BB did not need the BB plan.
I think you right about this one training is part of the issue.

[Brooose]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7130e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

That is the first I have heard that you could stack a power vision plan on too of a regular vision plan. Sounds like BS to me.

[Scrumptious]

What do we expect really? When have we ever got a straight correct answer from CS and not heard something different the next time we called or when into the store?

I have come to expect this from Sprint over the years... But the one time I left for a month or so and tried Verizon it made me look at the things I did like about Sprint. CS isn't one of them though. :indiff:

[ejlee7829]

I second that

[t3rror]

I am going to keep my BB with the BB service. I was not trying to do something 'sneaky' either, and I understand your point of view. It is the simple fact that the whole thing didn't feel right. I was also told multiple times that the PV was all I needed to have internet access. I added PV when I bought the BB because this is how it was explained to me. I felt like auditing the account and just turning everything off was not the appropriate way to handle this. Sprint should have taken the time to inform me of the situation. Instead, they shut off voice and data service to my account and the resulting action was me calling them. This is pretty ****ty. My problem with this is that I needed access to my work email over the holiday weekend. If any of you have access to Sprint personnel, please inform them that they are acting very unprofessional with regard to the BB service.

[Askani]

You can add/have a Blackberry without having a BB data service plan. You just can't use any off the BB Data features (ie, push email and browser). If you try to buy the Blackberry online they give you an option to have Blackberry service or not. You can install another browser if you want (Mini Opera, etc.) and use Sprints data stream for internet access. They can audit accounts all they want and remove BB service from anyone who is not paying for it. But they shouldn't remove, Vision/Power Vision or voice from anyones account who is not paying for the BB service.

[Elektra1210]

The Blackberry can play MP3s. You need to edit a mp3 down to like 15 seconds and save it. You can do it on Sound Forge. Its reccomended the file be no bigger than 150k. The go to this site on your PC. http://www.coolservice.dk/en/compatibilities.php This uploads the file to a WAP server then you log into http://wap.coolservice.dk on the blackberry and enter the download number they provided you with after you uploaded that mp3 file. After thats done it gives you the option of downloading the file and it plays it then click in the trackwheel and save. Its pretty simple. Hardest part really is having the right software to edit music files.

** THIS IS FOR RINGTONES**

[Scrumptious]

Yeah I have had mp3 ringers for awhile Tamaraa sent me a link ringers OTA from pinstack. I no longer have it but she may post it now that I have put her out there!

[SU_Diva*]

LOL @ Pricelss...here it is...

www.pinstack.com/tones/ at least I think this is it. I also read that you could go to Wal Mart and listen to the cd clips and save them that way but I haven't been able to do it yet.

[t3rror]

Since I am going to be paying for the BB service, I might as well learn to use the PAM feature of this phone. Has anyone used this yet? I am interested in how well it works. Thanks.

[SU_Diva*]

I love the PAM on this one. Really fast even with the 1x...what do you need to know.

[t3rror]

Is there anything special that you need to do? Honestly, I am being lazy and not spending time doing my own DD. I am also curious to see if it will work on linux.

[SU_Diva*]

Don't know about the Linux but the only thing you have to do with the PAM is have Sprint set up your account for it and downlaod the Sprint PCS Connection Manager. Plug it in to the laptop via USB and make sure it is connected the BB desktop and then click the PCS connection manager and dial the #777 which should already be set.

[bbman]

this is a GREAT phone. There's an new model coming out for sprint at the end of this year also.

[t3rror]

Don't know about the Linux but the only thing you have to do with the PAM is have Sprint set up your account for it and downlaod the Sprint PCS Connection Manager. Plug it in to the laptop via USB and make sure it is connected the BB desktop and then click the PCS connection manager and dial the #777 which should already be set.

What do you mean that sprint has to setup up my account for it? I thought PAM was included in the $40 BB service. Could you provide a few more details please? Thanks.

[Scrumptious]

She is saying even if you have the BB plan CS may need to be called if they didn't set it up right. It is a common problem basically.

[thetruth]

is there a way to add a custom sig line to your SMS text msg like other phones?

[Askani]

I have a 7130e with no Blackberry Data Plan (just unlimited vision). I can make my calls and surf the web, but don't get the blackberry push email. My company has blackberries. Maybe I don't have a thorough understanding of how this all works, but would I be able to get my 7130e activated on the coporate side and get company email even without the blackberry data plan?

[RCS]

I would love to get this phone................if I don't have to sign up for that BB service
Ok, why would you get a blackberry and not get the BB service? Without the BB service it is basically just a phone. Why would you pay $200 plus dollars for a phone with all these awesome features and not use them? Waste of money. Oh, by the way, I ahve owned a blackberry and was not a big fan at all.

[philipcolett]

I activated the phone by csr over the phone. I do not get internet or any email. I have the power vision on the phone, and it wont work. Any advice.

[AnthroMatt]

I activated the phone by csr over the phone. I do not get internet or any email. I have the power vision on the phone, and it wont work. Any advice.
I advise you to add the BlackBerry internet plan to your account.

[tim.s]

I have a 7130e with no Blackberry Data Plan (just unlimited vision). I can make my calls and surf the web, but don't get the blackberry push email. My company has blackberries. Maybe I don't have a thorough understanding of how this all works, but would I be able to get my 7130e activated on the coporate side and get company email even without the blackberry data plan?
Probabaly not - unless you can talk them into paying for it. For your phone to access BB features, your phone would have to have BB service. The service is tied to the phone, not the company server.

I can access my corporate email (which is behind a firewall) with my wife's BB phone, without any help or intervention from my company's tech support. When I do this, I'm using the BB service provided through Sprint and paid for personally.

If I didn't have BB service already and I wanted to "use" the BB service provide by my company, my company would need to obtain another license, add my phone to their service plan, and pay the monthly BB service fee (or I'd have to talk them into paying the service fee on my personal account).

Either way, someone has to pay for the BB service.

[SensuouslyMe]

I am so confused all of this sprint lingo...lol
Tamara can I have your yahoo name so you can help me out with this phone.
You seem to know alot thanks

[SU_Diva*]

Sexyrediva is my yahoo id and my BB pin is 3012D965

Sorry I do not check this particular thread that often anymore so this is the best way to get at me.

[remlle]

Im loving my blackberry for sure.

[BigPapaGato]

Currently have the 6700 which i love but am looking for another pda phone that has a better phone to it (those with the 6700 know about the crappy speaker phone quality)

I use my 6700 mostly for fun lol... never made a power point with it lol i use it mostly for the internet, emailing, music, text messaging, photo taking etc.

These are the features i'm looking for in a pda phone in interest order

1. Internet Capabilites
2. Text/Email
3. Speakerphone quality
4. listening to mp3s
5. camera

So is this new 7130 for me? or am i better off staying with the 6700 (I LOVE WINDOWS INTERFACE)

[remlle]

Currently have the 6700 which i love but am looking for another pda phone that has a better phone to it (those with the 6700 know about the crappy speaker phone quality)

I use my 6700 mostly for fun lol... never made a power point with it lol i use it mostly for the internet, emailing, music, text messaging, photo taking etc.

These are the features i'm looking for in a pda phone in interest order

1. Internet Capabilites
2. Text/Email
3. Speakerphone quality
4. listening to mp3s
5. camera

So is this new 7130 for me? or am i better off staying with the 6700 (I LOVE WINDOWS INTERFACE)


It has great interent cap.
awsome text/e-mail
speakerphone is good.
MP3s is ok but not its strong point
the camera is non existant.

[bcoutlander]

Well, I just ordered a 7130 again. My 700p reset itself 5 times on incoming calls the last 4 days. Plus another few calls went directly to voice mail. So, I just want a stable phone and good email. While I like Chatter on the Treo better than BIS the blackberry is just a much more stable phone. I will probably hold onto the Treo and wait for the next software update and then see how it holds up then. But, I am thinking this may be the time I stick with the Blackberry.

[Jaggrey]

I know somebody is going to ask it so I'm gonna be the one....

Did you try a hard reset? :p

[bcoutlander]

I know somebody is going to ask it so I'm gonna be the one....

Did you try a hard reset? :p

Yes, I did.... I believe it is something to do with the BT stack. It only occurs when I have my BT headset connected. And when the 700p came back up BT would be turned off on the phonel. 2 resets happened after I did the hard reset; 1 with nothing installed on the phone and another the next day with most of my apps reinstalled(not from a backup either). The calls going to voicemail occurred with no background apps running either.

I have been thinkng about adding PhoneAsModem anyway so the extra cost is a wash by moving to the BB. I will try the 700p out again when they update the firmware but I can't afford to miss many work related calls. Also, I have been kind of missing the BB since using a 7130 for a couple of weeks earlier this summer. The only thing I really see myself missing is the camera for occaisional pics of my daughter but my blade slips into a pocket pretty nicely.

[bluecoyote]

I love my blackberry

I love my blackberry

if it had a camera and a memorycard slot with mp3 player I wouldn't ever bat an eye for an S60 device. (Yes, I do miss the camera.)


so when the 8100 comes out for Sprint, I will have finally reached happiness. In the mean time I'm happy with my 7130e, and it is well worth the data plan. It is not a constant source of frustration.

[Need]

I just got the 7130E and I love the phone so far. The only complain I have is that I think the glossy black plastic case looks cheap. Most of the other phones or PDA has some metallic in the plastic case to make it look more expansive. This one reminded me of a toy phone. I want to buy a silicon skin to cover the phone, but I can't see to find any. Does anyone knows if anyone makes a silicon skin for it?

[Orbitz]

I love my blackberry

I love my blackberry

if it had a camera and a memorycard slot with mp3 player I wouldn't ever bat an eye for an S60 device. (Yes, I do miss the camera.)


so when the 8100 comes out for Sprint, I will have finally reached happiness. In the mean time I'm happy with my 7130e, and it is well worth the data plan. It is not a constant source of frustration.

I couldn't agree more! Very close to being the perfect phone for me.

[mindtrix]

i wouldnt mind getting the BB plan but it should at least come with free SMS