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guevara
05-22-2006, 06:27 PM
Q is out but on Verizon. Pricing is very very competitive. $ 199 with a two year contract !! Wow!. Motorola is really trying to dent Palm and BB domination in a big way. Tempting pricing and the device is also cool (form factor). Man, what do I do, Treo 700 or Q with Verizon ?? :confused:

Q press release (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060522/motorola_new_phone.html?.v=1)

Test user's Q pictures (http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1675357)


Tigrrre
05-22-2006, 06:32 PM
Aggressive pricing is due to the fact that if they don't, it wont sell.

People want the real thing (BlackBerry's & Treo's)

guevara
05-22-2006, 06:36 PM
Aggressive pricing is due to the fact that if they don't, it wont sell.

People want the real thing (BlackBerry's & Treo's)
Huh.Real thing ?

Tigrrre
05-22-2006, 06:40 PM
yes, the real thing, they don't want some copycat that can't even make most "phone" phones right.

moto is known for effing up smartphones (look at the mpx200&220 for examples)

guevara
05-22-2006, 06:47 PM
yes, the real thing, they don't want some copycat that can't even make most "phone" phones right.

moto is known for effing up smartphones (look at the mpx200&220 for examples)

Hmm...nice. Amazing how people can just jump to conclusion about a product they haven't even seen. So by your reasoning no tech. company ever has had a bad product out there and people still using that product.

Tigrrre
05-22-2006, 06:52 PM
...i have seen this phone.

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

don't assume, you make an ass out of (especially) u and me.

MacPCS
05-22-2006, 06:54 PM
it's not even running PocketPC version of WinMo, it's running smartphone version!

it's like a RAZR with new icons and a QWERTY keyboard :|

NINO63004
05-22-2006, 06:55 PM
after reading about it...it doesnt seem to be all that great after all...i thought it would be cool but i guess its not that cool...i like the design though...



Nino

guevara
05-22-2006, 07:01 PM
...i have seen this phone.

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

don't assume, you make an ass out of (especially) u and me.

Seen it, hahaah. Whatever may be your reasoning, unless you were one of the ones invloved in a trial for Q, I am just wondering how you can conclude it is not real OR just assume that it is not a quality product.
Anyway you are entitled to your opinion no matter how flawed it maybe.

NINO63004
05-22-2006, 07:05 PM
Whatever may be your reasoning, unless you were one of the ones invloved in a trial for Q, I am just wondering how you can conclude it is not real. Anyway you are entitled to your opinion no matter how flawed it maybe.


third knows its real but saying that it is a copycat verison of a Treo or BB...and that people will want a Treo or BB instead of a Q...


maybe you got that from third but it didnt seem like it so i am just trying to clarify...



Nino

guevara
05-22-2006, 07:09 PM
third knows its real but saying that it is a copycat verison of a Treo or BB...and that people will want a Treo or BB instead of a Q...


maybe you got that from third but it didnt seem like it so i am just trying to clarify...



Nino

Got your point. Certain companies innovate and then certain companies follow the innovators. Even if a product is a copycat doesn't mean it is no good.

NINO63004
05-22-2006, 07:24 PM
Got your point. Certain companies innovate and then certain companies follow the innovators. Even if a product is a copycat doesn't mean it is no good.


true...i have not seen it so i cant say whether or not it is good or not...but what the members on here say about different products are pretty good...


ill have to go play with one and test it out...




Nino

Serifan
05-22-2006, 07:48 PM
it's not even running PocketPC version of WinMo, it's running smartphone version!

it's like a RAZR with new icons and a QWERTY keyboard :|
While this is true, it's not really meant to compete with the likes of the Treo. It's aimed directly at RIM/Blackberry. Moreover, I believe the design is too thin to include a touch screen, which is perhaps why they opted for the Smartphone version over the PocketPC version of WM5.

Hamfighter
05-22-2006, 08:22 PM
This phone would be an absolute slam dunk if it weren't running the watered down version of Windows Mobile 5. But, running the Smartphone version, it is literally not in the same league. Thats not a insult, its just honestly not the same type of phone!

wolverinesnake
05-22-2006, 10:22 PM
What is the big diff btwn the two versions of WM5? is there a good comparison site out there? I've googled but nothing stating more than the lack of touchscreen for smartphone ver. What else is missing? TIA.

Tigrrre
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
basically...

wmo5 sucks as a smartphone OS.

ekauq
05-23-2006, 06:36 AM
hehe...also i think another downside would be no wifi but that's me

here's microsoft's anwser on the difference between the two versions

Q: What’s the difference between a Pocket PC and a Smartphone?

A: Pocket PCs come with mobile versions of Office applications in addition to Microsoft Outlook Mobile. Though there are different Pocket PCs, many come with Wi-Fi to enable you to connect to the Internet when you are in a wireless hotspot. With a Pocket PC, you’ll be able to use Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, and PowerPoint Mobile and browse the Internet if you have a device with Wi-Fi and are in a wireless hotspot. You can compose e-mail messages and send them by synchronizing with your desktop computer or wirelessly when you’re in a hotspot.

You can do everything with a Pocket PC Phone that you can do with a Pocket PC with the addition of wireless access to the Internet and cellular phone capabilities. If you have a Pocket PC Phone, you can access the Internet through your wireless connection—you won’t need to find a wireless hotspot. Internet access incurs data charges from your wireless provider.

You can add a wide variety of software titles to your Pocket PC and Pocket PC Phone. Find third-party software at Handango or Pocket Gear. You can also visit our Mobile Application catalog, which lists certified applications for Windows Mobile powered devices.

A smartphone has phone capabilities and comes with a smaller set of applications. Though you can add third-party software titles to your smartphone, the smaller keypad and screen are designed to give you quick one-handed access to important data. A smartphone is a good choice for business users who need to check e-mail, keep track of their calendars, and take voice notes, but who don’t need the added functionality of Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, and PowerPoint Mobile. If you find yourself wanting more functions after you’ve purchased your device, there are good third-party software titles designed to extend the capabilities of a Windows Mobile powered smartphone.

Argelius
05-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I was really hoping the Q would be my next phone. After having the Treo 650 for almost two years, I am currently trying out the PPC-6700. The Treo is definitely a better phone and PDA*, hands-down, but I needed something new to play with.

I really like the thumboard below the screen (as opposed to the 6700's slide-out type). Thought the Q would be a perfect new alternative to the Treo. But now that I realize it's running Smartphone and now WM 5.0, I'm not sure. Will be interesting to see some reviews to see how well you can navigate one-handed.

I'm thinking the HP iPaq 6940 (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/215348-64929-215381-314903-f92-1822489.html) is going to be an interesting Treo alternative. WM 5.0, WiFi, Bluetooth, built-in GPS, Qwerty keyboard...


* If it's so perfect, why then not stay with the Treo 650? Cuz I'm bored with it. Palm Software/OS is stagnant....and the 700p isn't enough of an upgrade...need new and different toy to play with

kewlazme
05-24-2006, 02:05 PM
* If it's so perfect, why then not stay with the Treo 650? Cuz I'm bored with it. Palm Software/OS is stagnant....and the 700p isn't enough of an upgrade...need new and different toy to play with

So wait 2 months for the 700w.. that sounds like more of what you want and that will actually be out for sprint.. not likely sprint will carry the Q since they dont "do" motorola. That IPAQ looks nice too, but that appears to be a cingular only phone as it uses EDGE. ARGG Why can't sprint own all phones. You basically need an account with each service to play with all the cool phones that come out for each.

Tigrrre
05-24-2006, 02:10 PM
240x240 screen = yuckola.

Q = double yuckola, just stay away from it.

Wideawake
05-25-2006, 12:00 AM
this device is way to small, how the heck to you type emails on that thing. LOL. Im sticking with my PPC-6700!

guevara
05-25-2006, 12:23 AM
Check out the video here (http://www.qusers.com) . Looks cool.
Oh man what a dilemma -- 700p or Q or 7130e!!

Malatesta
05-25-2006, 01:13 AM
Check out the video here (http://www.qusers.com) . Looks cool.
Oh man what a dilemma -- 700p or Q or 7130e!!
Cool. Looks like a nice in-between phone for someone who wants most of the WM5 capabilities but not all the 'power user' stuff. Screen is quite nice and looks a heck a lot better than the 700W.

While I wouldn't consider the 6700 to be a competitor to a Treo (different device class, imo) this looks like a good contender/alternate.

A lot of the reviews seem to be quite positive too...

Malatesta
05-25-2006, 01:17 AM
240x240 screen = yuckola.

Q = double yuckola, just stay away from it.
For someone who's "seen this phone" get your facts straight at least!

The screen is QVGA, 65K colors and 320x240.

Wideawake
05-25-2006, 01:29 AM
I like my touch screen!

FloorMatt
05-25-2006, 01:37 AM
For someone who's "seen this phone" get your facts straight at least!

The screen is QVGA, 65K colors and 320x240.

Ahem.....I think thirdshift was talking about the Treo 700w, in that first line. :)

The second line was about the Q. :Popcorn2:

guevara
05-25-2006, 02:01 AM
Cool. Looks like a nice in-between phone for someone who wants most of the WM5 capabilities but not all the 'power user' stuff. Screen is quite nice and looks a heck a lot better than the 700W.

While I wouldn't consider the 6700 to be a competitor to a Treo (different device class, imo) this looks like a good contender/alternate.

A lot of the reviews seem to be quite positive too...[/B].

Yes. I really don't need a heavy hitter like 700p but haven't made up my mind yet. Will wait till reviews from actual day to day users for both users are out .

Merlyn_3D
05-25-2006, 03:19 AM
The Q doesn't look that great. From the videos, it looks kinda slow, and I bet battery life on it is abysmal.

EDIT: Take a look at the 700p video review and notice how extremely fast blazer is on evdo. Compare that to pocketIE on the Q, and there is no comparision. Treo beats it by far.

Tigrrre
05-25-2006, 09:37 AM
yes to both shortcomings.

guevara
05-25-2006, 09:38 AM
The Q doesn't look that great. From the videos, it looks kinda slow, and I bet battery life on it is abysmal.

EDIT: Take a look at the 700p video review and notice how extremely fast blazer is on evdo. Compare that to pocketIE on the Q, and there is no comparision. Treo beats it by far.


It doesn't look great because the browser is slow OR the form factor is too bad? Plus I think people don't buy a particular PDA or SmarPhone just because the browser is fast.
As far as battery life goes check this link (http://www.qusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90&start=0). You will have to scroll down halfway through. This is a thread started by actual Q trial user unlike some users on these forums (who haven't even played with it) and his responses have been very measured and objective. Not those of a typical fan boy and I am not implying you are one :tu:

Tigrrre
05-25-2006, 10:02 AM
nice attempt at a flame.

i actually have handled a Q before, at training, and let me tell you it is a piece...get the BB instead.

neogina
05-25-2006, 10:13 AM
Big Moto Hater :haha:

Tigrrre
05-25-2006, 10:18 AM
i have an e815, i like it but only because it is the only decent phone Moto has put out in a while.

I don't hate Moto, just their QC. ;)

guevara
05-25-2006, 10:19 AM
nice attempt at a flame.

i actually have handled a Q before, at training, and let me tell you it is a piece...get the BB instead.


Hahaha.......No man not trying to start a war.I value every opinion here as long as it is what it is & not clouded by ulterior motives or zeal. And I am not saying that you are one of the zealous ones :)

Argelius
05-25-2006, 10:46 AM
So, does anyone have any idea when we'll be reading the headline, "Sprint announces availablity of Motorola Q"??

Tigrrre
05-25-2006, 10:48 AM
look for flying pigs ;)

Malatesta
05-25-2006, 11:30 AM
So, does anyone have any idea when we'll be reading the headline, "Sprint announces availablity of Motorola Q"??
It was reported (I think on cnet or one of those sites) that Verizon paid big bucks for an exclusive and not to expect it on Sprint (if they go w/ it) till end of the year.

battery life is 4 hours talk and 4 day standby. not too shabby.

Argelius
05-25-2006, 12:20 PM
That's sort of what I thought...

Too bad Verizon's data plans are so $$$, or I'd jump ship.

Just time for Sprint to get some cool new hardware. (700p doesn't count...until it gets an updated OS....need something more novel to feel my gadget addiction).

guevara
05-25-2006, 12:29 PM
That's sort of what I thought...

Too bad Verizon's data plans are so $$$, or I'd jump ship.

Just time for Sprint to get some cool new hardware. (700p doesn't count...until it gets an updated OS....need something more novel to feel my gadget addiction).

From what I have read for $80 pre-tax you will get a unlimited data plan & 450 anytime minutes if you sbuy a Q and sign up 2 years with VZW. Too steep a price. Would be interesting to see how VZW prices family plans for Q.

guevara
05-26-2006, 01:19 AM
A nice Q site (http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/q-home.asp?Country=USA&language=ENS&productid=30419) .It is loaded with information and details. If only Sprint .......sigh....

guevara
05-29-2006, 05:06 PM
Had to post this. Check out Slingbox mobile on Q (http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=2382). I am so far pretty impressed with Q as a smartphone, only thing I have concerns about is battery life. Cmon Sprint make up with Moto and get us Q
:frustrate

kewlazme
05-30-2006, 09:33 PM
That's sort of what I thought...

Too bad Verizon's data plans are so $$$, or I'd jump ship.

and worse, their call quality.... blergh
Had to post this. Check out Slingbox mobile on Q (http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=2382). I am so far pretty impressed with Q as a smartphone, only thing I have concerns about is battery life. Cmon Sprint make up with Moto and get us Q
:frustrate

Sprint is fighting with moto? but I've started seeing actual moto phones for sprint lately.. and even a Blackberry for sprint.. i thought there was promise that by the time the RAZRII came out, we'd have a chance.

JTWJ
05-31-2006, 03:25 PM
http://www.mobiletracker.net/archives/2006/05/31/motorola-q-launches

Argelius
05-31-2006, 03:30 PM
Yawn.
Time for Sprint to start titillating us with some new, cool phones...

thenog
06-01-2006, 03:43 AM
it's not even running PocketPC version of WinMo, it's running smartphone version!

it's like a RAZR with new icons and a QWERTY keyboard :|


Well this should actually be right up your alley MacPCS as you seem to prefer treos over smartphones/WM Pocket PC's

....I just went and checked one out this evening and I've got to tell you the qaulity is top notch. Everything is within easy reach and it's a solid device. Not to mention that it is one of the first smartphones available to us in the US that incoporates A2DP/AVRCP natively and verizon is pushing that fact too. I had a look at the treo 700 and wasn't really impressed, it just seemed like a litte more dressed up version of the 650 IMO. I do think however, given my comments in response to yours in some other threads, that this phone is more adequate a comparison to a treo than the 6700. It is definately more phone than PDA (the lack of word and excel sucks), however in functionality they are much the same.

So in summary I would say that the 700 has some competition with this device but it is in no way a replacement for the power of the 6700, just as the 700p. I believe that Moto just might have a winner on their hands here. The wow factor is pretty high, a brilliant screen and backlit keyboard, full bluetooth support for their stylish new line of bluetooth products, sound quality was excellent and form factor can't be beat. This device can fit in a shirt/suit pocket and be virtually unnoticable by the masses. Tested out the camera and I've got to tell you it is better than my treo and 6700 or even my A940 for that matter. I don't know how they did it but the photos are clear and crisp even with slight movement of my hand. Although shutter speed was a bit slow.

I was a bit disheartened by the lack of office software of some nature, either office or docs to go and am still researching on whether anything of that nature exists for installation on it.

It looks like what they were heading for was a blend between the 700W, 700P, & Pocket PC. Downside...using the smartphone OS does limit the usability somewhat, however the phone is so robust in other areas this might just be something I can overlook.

Cheers!!

thenog
06-01-2006, 03:53 AM
Cool. Looks like a nice in-between phone for someone who wants most of the WM5 capabilities but not all the 'power user' stuff. Screen is quite nice and looks a heck a lot better than the 700W.

While I wouldn't consider the 6700 to be a competitor to a Treo (different device class, imo) this looks like a good contender/alternate.

A lot of the reviews seem to be quite positive too...


I agree wholeheartedly :)

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